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  1. Beanie Ginn

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  2. Block "O"

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    haha Ice Cube...growing up on his cds its funny what a kids movie puss he has become. Still an all time great rapper.
     
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    Becoming a father does things to you. But for real, he's done a dozen movies, and only two of them were kids movies.

    He's certainly more of an actor/director than musician though. Boyz N the Hood and Friday changed everything for him. He's still released plenty of albums in that time, they just haven't lived up to his first three. He's been working on a more politically-concious album, Everything's Corrupt, for years now, but it's starting to feel like Detox.

    I admire how much he and Dre have accomplished beyond music without being media darlings like Jay Z or Kanye. They seem to keep their head down and keep working, not trying to be spotted court-side in a nice suit or whatever.
     
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    It is funny if you listen to No Vaseline now and look to where his career went. He definitely made huge strides in his 'entertainment' career, but a lot of his lyrics look really silly now. But he is still a great rapper.

    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ice-cu...x1152-20150821-111536-005-111401456.html?nf=1

    But at the end of the day I always thought gangsta rap was silly. It always seemed more hollywood than reality...best hip hop always was in the east.
     
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    NWA's version of gangster rap WAS their reality. Hell, most gangster rap from that time was reality, that's why it was good. Nowadays it's all a bunch of pretenders trying to fit a false image to sell records. No substance to their words at all. Most rap now is the same exact thing everyone else is saying, to a different beat.

    People need to stop making garbage rappers famous.
     
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    Rap is the biggest insult to music ever perpetrated on the public.
     
  7. wesbranscum

    wesbranscum Buckeye Extremist

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    Current rap is. NWA and some of the early stuff is legit
     
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    You can say what you want, about anything you want.. just keep in mind that your opinion on this specific topic is about as meaningful as what I flushed down the toilet this morning.
     
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  10. AZBuckeye

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    The minute you start saying things like this is the minute you become "old."
     
  11. Block "O"

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    I'll take the old moniker...I miss traditional hip hop with 2 turntables and a mic. I'm sorry but current 'mainstream' rap just sucks. The moment it became mainstream and I saw Snoop in a commercial with Lee Iacocca I knew it was all over. I miss hip hop when it was 'bad' and more controversial.

    I mean seriously who is the KRS-ONE of this generation? F'ing Kanye West...give me a break!!!! hahahaha
     
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    Mainstream = bad is not exclusive to any music genre or time period. There were plenty of junk hip-hop acts in the 90s, and as much as I love Run-DMC and the Beastie Boys, the talent level of the pioneers was pretty bad. IMO LL was probably the first lyricist in the business. If not for nostalgia, Kurtis Blow, Grandmaster Flash, Fat Boys, Kool Mo Dee and the like are tough to listen to.

    You're kidding yourself, playing the "I'm cool 'cause I remember when..." doofus or clueless if you think there isn't more talent in hip-hop now than there has ever been.
     
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  14. wesbranscum

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    but does more talent mean better?
     
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    Which hip hop group is the A Tribe Called Quest, Roots, De La Soul right now? If there is more than ever I expect a huge list of dope rap groups. So you're sitting there saying the talent level of Eric B and Rakim was 'pretty bad'? Talk about not appreciating where the music came from. That to me is both clueless and doofus. There was garbage hip hop in the 90's but not the majority like today. Any serious hip hop fan will admit the 90's was the high water mark.

    As with every other issue imaginable...we agree to disagree.
     
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    The Roots and De La Soul are still contemporary musical acts, Rakim was great and is still doing music. Erik B shouldn't get so much credit, but it stems from an era where the DJ was king.

    You just listed a range of talent from nearly thirty years. Pick a year or few-year range if you want to actually compare contemporary acts. It's like saying there was more NBA talent from 1975 to 1998 than there is this season.

    It's painfully obvious that you guys don't actually listen to the music you're criticizing. This is my last post defending myself here. Feel free to continue to be egregiously wrong.
     
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    Bands like this need to return.....

     

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