2014 Secondary Discussion...

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  1. Anchorman

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    I am betting Vonn Bell gets the start. Who plays the nickel back position? Tyvis or Cam Burrows!
     
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  2. Bucknut502

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    Meyer has already said that Armani Reeves is going to be the Nickel. I figured he would have been the starting CB opposite of Doran Grant. Maybe Apple of Conley start at CB, Reeves at Nickel and my money is on Bell and Powell at Safeties.

    I’d rather see it look like:
    CB - Grant
    SS - Powell
    FS - Bell
    NB - Burrows
    CB - Apple/Reeves

    Great things have been said about Eli Apple. I felt like Reeves was a liability last year. Got beat A LOT! Maybe he’s improved under good coaching...
     
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  3. OSUBasketballJunkie

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  4. Anchorman

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    I hate to see Cam the odd man out, but we now have a lot of depth! Apple is from NJ and they do put out good talent in football! Think Joe Haden!
     
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    Malcolm Jenkins is from New Jersey.
     
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  11. jn25code

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    I have no worries with the secondary with C.Ash there.
     
  12. OSUBasketballJunkie

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  14. wheezy1281

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    Vonn was clearly our best secondary player today...didn't miss tackles and didn't play soft - came up in support quickly without hesitation and made plays...Burrows didn't play well in my eyes and seemed timid, and Powell missed a bunch of tackles by either over-pursuing or just missing. I would prefer to see one of them as the clear starter with some/situational rotation
     
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  15. ScarletMerica

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    Vonn Bell was doing his best Ryan Shazier from the Safety position. Dude was in on everythingeverything
     
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  16. OSUBasketballJunkie

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    I was not specifically watching the safeties however I did see Cam out of position on a few runs...........he took himself out of the play......
     
  17. louts8wings

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    I didn't get to watch the game. I just caught the last 8 plays of the game due to my son's football game. But I will say this game is very hard to get a reading out of this team. Next week the secondary and LB's will be playing against a familiar style of offense.
     
  18. OSUBasketballJunkie

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    Burrows Over Bell: Ash’s Reasoning
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    A lot of people presumed sophomore Vonn Bell would earn a starting job to begin the 2014 season. However, when the Buckeyes took the field against Navy on Saturday, it was classmate Cam Burrows who received the nod over Bell.

    Bell still played a decent amount, but the bottom line is that Burrows is ahead of him on the depth chart right now.

    Following the game, OSU co-defensive coordinator Chris Ash explained why.

    “Those decisions are made through the course of practice and how they handle their business,” Ash said. “Cam Burrows is a guy that has been practicing for us since last February doing the things that we need him doing at the safety position. Unfortunately, Vonn missed some spring practices because of an injury. Cam didn’t do anything to give that position back, and Vonn was up and down a little bit with some things throughout the course of training camp.

    “The good thing is we’ve got competition at that position. We really have three guys that we think can play at a high level and give us winning football with (sophomore starter) Tyvis (Powell), Cam and with Vonn, and all three of those guys will continue to push each other to get better.”

    Ash thinks the competition between Burrows and Bell will continue for the foreseeable future. He even indicated that Powell has competition for his starting spot (e.g. Burrows and Bell could start together).

    “Absolutely,” he said. “I hope so. Between all three of them.

    “As for Cam and Vonn specifically, would I love to see one of them jump up? Yeah. But if they’re both pushing each other and they’re both getting better because of it, then I’m good with it.”

    Bell’s brother, Volonte Bell, took to Twitter during OSU’s game on Saturday to express disgust that Vonn was not starting. Making the matter even more interesting, Volonte mistakenly tweeted his complaint from Vonn’s account. The tweet – which read “lol ask people who saw practices” – was quickly deleted by Volonte, who then clarified what happened.

    Chances are good that Vonn Bell believes he should be starting, although he’s a classy young man and it would be surprising to see him gripe publicly. However, what does Ash say to a player like Bell who probably figured he’d be in the starting lineup, but is instead a backup?

    “Well, did he expect to be in there or not? I don’t know,” Ash said. “A lot of people might have anointed him as the next guy at that position, but I didn’t come in with those expectations as the new guy here. Everyone was going to have to fight for every rep that they got and Vonn has done that, Cam has done that and Tyvis has done that. Erick Smith and Ron Tanner have also done that. So, I’ve got no complaints about the situation. Competition is great for everybody.”

    We asked Ash if OSU’s safeties are interchangeable, or if the Buckeyes differentiate between free and strong.

    “We play with a free and strong, but they’re interchangeable,” he said. “They have to be.”
     
  19. BuckeyeEdge

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    I'll thrown in a biased two cents on a specific piece of the current secondary. I spent a year working with Tyvis Powell (from commitment to enrollment) helping him publish personal blog posts on a former site of mine. When he first committed to it I figured he'd barely contribute or put effort into it, much less do it weekly without a miss. From the words he wrote to the interactions we had along the way it was impossible not to root for him. That's on top of the fact that he committed to a program who DIDN'T HAVE A COACH (between Tress and Fick). I recall him saying during his announcement, "as far as I know the Fisher College of Business didn't burn down." The kid was a winner from the jump.

    Honestly wasn't sure we'd ever see him on the field, being a non-Urban commit and with all of the talent Meyer was bringing in from the get go (Tyvis was a 3-star CB). Now we hear Urban talk about the kid, "playing like a veteran" and, "...could very well be playing on Sundays" and it makes me happy. He's gone from an unknown to an inner-circle fan favorite to a key piece of the program and I couldn't be more thrilled. Kid deserves everything positive he gets. As it comes there will be no doubt he earned it.

    Ok, three cents.
     
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  20. OSUBasketballJunkie

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    defense has not allowed a pass play longer than 20 yards through 3 games this season......
     

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